The Lost Civilization of 'Aad/عاد is not in Arabia!!

Speaking of Iram/إرم , the source of this post is not mine , so here's the Arabic blog with the original article: دحض فرية أن إرم ذات العماد بأحقاف اليمن

I recommend you to check the blogger's other posts there if you found this interesting , he used strong arguments based on western researchers findings to conclude 'Aad's existence , so this is not a random assumption , it's to answer what we never bothered to ask before.

Below are a few from the evidence he posted , but it's serious to review those , literally showing us what we didn't understand about pre-historic Middle East and even the truth about 'Aad in the Qur'an.

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  • (1) Al-Ahqaf , the Inhabitance of 'Aad

۞ وَاذْكُرْ أَخَا عَادٍ إِذْ أَنذَرَ قَوْمَهُ بِالْأَحْقَافِ وَقَدْ خَلَتِ النُّذُرُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ أَلَّا تَعْبُدُوا إِلَّا اللَّهَ إِنِّي أَخَافُ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَابَ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ

( 46/21 ) And mention, [O Muhammad], the brother of 'Aad, when he warned his people in the [region of] al-Ahqaf - and warners had already passed on before him and after him - [saying], "Do not worship except Allah. Indeed, I fear for you the punishment of a terrible day."

One wonders where's that 'Ahqaf' Prophet Hud was sent for?

'Ahqaf' turns out to be not a name of a region like the translator thought , but a noun meaning longitudinal curved sands area: الأحقاف

( 46/24 ) And when they saw it as a cloud approaching their valleys, they said, "This is a cloud bringing us rain!" Rather, it is that for which you were impatient: a wind, within it a painful punishment,

( 46/25 ) Destroying everything by command of its Lord. And they became so that nothing was seen [of them] except their dwellings. Thus do We recompense the criminal people.

The 'Ahqaf' in Yemen/Oman has no valleys like verse 24 describes , but the definition on Wikipedia mentions these kind of sand dunes are not exclusive to south Arabia like scholars presumed , it also exists in the valley of Giza ..... Egypt!

Scholars believed the violent wind that destroyed 'Aad buried Iram under the sand till it became an Atlantis in the desert , but the Qur'an responds that this is not true , 'Aad are in front of us:

وَعَادًا وَثَمُودَ وَقَد تَّبَيَّنَ لَكُم مِّن مَّسَاكِنِهِمْ ۖ

( 29/38 ) And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud, and it has become clear to you from their [ruined] dwellings.

We already know Thamud's resting place and the Prophet mentioned them in Hadeeth multiple times: مدائن صالح

But if 'Aad were really in Arabian Peninsula like we always believed , then why the Prophet didn't confirm them to be really there? .... Was the scholar assumption on Arabian 'Ahqaf' wrong?

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  • (2) Sphinx

A historical fact we never questioned before , how old is Sphinx?

Egyptologists say it was sculpted ~2500 BCE by king Khafre's order , but look at the side view:

An amateur bodybuilder will notice the problem here too!

The proportions of Sphinx are out of place , the head is small compared to the huge long body beneath it , and it gives you the impression Sphinx came out of a failed beautification surgery till it became awfully smaller!

The bad news , "there is not one single contemporary inscription which connects Sphinx with Khafre" , and this was written by Egyptian Egyptologist Selim Hassan 70 years ago: Creation of Sphinx

Egyptologists have no decisive proof that Khafre built Sphinx , they only assumed both look similar and judged Khafre as the owner:

Ancient Egyptians were professional with sculpting their Pharaohs , but not here!

But they are not similar , the face features are very different = Khafre is not the real owner!

The blogger also made a proposition how the real old Sphinx could have looked like:

The suggested design of the real Sphinx

Sphinx is geologically older than 2500 BCE , according to Robert Schoch in his book "The Great Sphinx" , he found the erosion lines and cleaves on Sphinx lion body can not be caused by horizontal wind force , but constant rain that doesn't happen in modern Egypt , i.e. Sphinx was in existence close to the ice age between a shocking 11,000 - 7000 BCE!!

This raises accusations at the Pyramids , who built those? .... and who mutilated them later?

Article: أبو الهول .. تمثال من الحضارة المفقودة

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  • (3) Who stole Whom?

Another contradiction is the Pharaoh of Moses himself , the mockery glares when you look what Ramsees II wrote on those granite statues:

Ramsees didn't bother to fix the statue , nor he left his name on it!

He inscribed his name on the 2 complete statues , but didn't risk it and left the destroyed one nameless , does that mean the Pharaoh of Moses was a thief?

The situation is actually worse when you know that some archeologists inscribe with their hands on statues and edit the history for us , just what the Bible says:

The fresh inscription speaks for itself!

Abu Simbel's entrance with the 4 statues of Ramsees II , are not going well together:

There was supposed to be a 4th one , and we are certain he is not similar to any!

The four are Ramsees II and the two are his wife , and I don't know why?!

They are all different , who is that madman who will make 4 useless copies of himself?

Where are the historical records that ancient Egyptians built those and didn't stick their names on them?

If these are not for Ramsees II , who are those giant men/women depicted on these statues??

Article: هل تماثيل معبد أبي سمبل لنفس الشخص ؟

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  • (4) Forgery & Mysteries

No material tools except bronze and copper (and iron in late kingdom) were used by ancient Egyptians , so how did they build solid basalt and granite and quartz and diorite high-quality engineered monuments with these fragile and weak materials? ...... Where are the advanced machinery ancient Egyptians used to make these accurately refined designs?

Christopher Dunn taking measurements , perfect 90 degrees made by a high tech.

This is a black granite box with +70 tons weight in the Serapeum of Saqqara , no human on earth knows how ancient Egyptians built or moved this monster and put it in this narrow room with some primitive tools:

You need +500 strong men in the room together if you'll move one of those!!!

26 boxes are there , and the only one inscribed on is in the bottom left , did they forget the other 25 boxes?

The writer had a hard time with this , did he forget to contact the engineer first?

Compare how refined the box shiny quality-design with those trashy inscriptions like scratches on it , a decisive proof the text writer stole the original work from the engineer!

I know , we all mistook this to be a coffin ....... and it's not!

The boxes of Saqqara are impossible to be sarcophagi made for Egyptian deities like Egyptologists believe , they are made with different materials and designs , it actually tells you this engineer who designed had a knowledgeable and technical mindset behind these boxes.

Some boxes are smooth-surfaced too , while others were still rough , which means there's some kind of disaster that stopped the workers there from finishing their task with the boxes.

Christopher Dunn in his book "Lost Technology in Ancient Egypt" inquired from 4 companies in USA to replicate Saqqara boxes , the response he got: "It's a miracle ancient Egyptians made those!"

Article: تكنولوجيا متطورة في مصر القديمة : صناديق السرابيوم

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  • (5) The Great Pyramid Problem

King Khufu's reign , the man who Egyptologists attribute the Great Pyramid to , is poorly documented in history books!

All what we found on the maker of the best of the 7 World Wonders are some secondhand statues mixed with theories and legends from Greek historians , so archeologists assumed Khufu built the Pyramid , they even called it his tomb without finding his corpse first.

Khufu didn't leave his name on the Pyramid except a scratchy inscription found inside written anonymously , and this is all what we got of the world genius who supposedly built the best wonder on the earth , a red graffiti left in a dark corner found by British officer Howard Vyse:

King's work or vandalism?

Same thing can be said on Khafre and the claimed Middle Pyramid , there's no verifiable evidence he built it , or how the kings of that era accomplish what we can't replicate today , or any papyrus showing the building process , or inscriptions how scheduling the work has gone , etc....

Even king Sneferu who has three pyramids attributed to his name , nothing of his mention was found inside any of the three.

The Pyramids from the inside tell you it's impossible they were tombs , the Small Pyramid of Menkaure has entrance of 100 cm , and the interiors are very narrow , no inscriptions about any funerals or dead either , and no rational person accepts this amazing work was wasted to be a lame grave.

If you looked Wikipedia Great Pyramid RC dating , the page suggests the Pyramids date to be the same as Egyptologists say (~2500 BCE) , but inspecting reference 39 ; down the page you will find the dating samples were taken under supervision of Zahi Hawass , who is this guy?

He is the supremacist managing Egyptian archeology you are taught in history books today , look what he has done when he lost the Pyramids debate with Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock: 1994: BAUVAL vs HAWASS & Zahi Hawass Storms out of Debate with Graham Hancock before it Begins

Who built the Pyramids? ....... Only Allah knows!

Article: بناة الأهرام .. من هم ؟

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  • (6) Unknown Fate to Unknown Civilization

Many unexplained destructions happened in the Egyptian monuments , many destroyed obelisks and temples , many destroyed Pyramids left ruins with no historical traces who has done that , and it's very clear this was not a pointless labor work , this was a natural catastrophe!

All Saqqara Pyramids are destroyed except Djoser for some reason...

Not a random but varied destruction , since you can find Pyramids not far from each other with different aftereffect results , the majority of pyramids in Egypt are demolished or incomplete , and the Egyptian dynasties didn't fix the work of the older ones , which means they didn't know how to do it again and also proves they are not the real owners of the Pyramids.

But the Qur'an:

( 51/41 ) And in 'Aad [was a sign], when We sent against them the barren wind.

( 51/42 ) It left nothing of what it came upon but that it made it like disintegrated ruins.

The Tempest Stele is a historical record (before Moses time) on a nightmare that happened in ancient Egypt , the author of the stele mentioned the wrath of their deities by the approach of a stormy black cloud holding rain coming from west of the Nile valley , the cloud then coldly blew in scream everything in its way with establishments and people and even pyramids , the victims were floating dead on the waters:

قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «نُصِرْتُ بِالصَّبَا وَأُهْلِكَتْ عَاد بالدبور»

God’s Messenger said, “I have been helped by the east wind, and ‘Aad were destroyed by the west wind.”

In addition to the cold wind eating the valley [46:24] , 'Aad were stricken by a thunderbolt [41:13] and a shriek [23:41] with emphasize on the corpses floating.......

What was the divine punishment of 'Aad doing in Egypt???

Article: هل انتهت الحضارة المصرية بكارثة ؟!

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  • (7) Advanced Technologies in Pre-Historic Age

Even with black magic , you will never reach this level with your hand!

See those boring vessels? ...... Those with other 40,000 ones were found under Djoser Pyramid in Saqqara and (as expected) attributed to him.

The problem you will deal with is those are impossible to be made without using an electric lathe and not just a normal one , it must be from a hardened material like diamond to deal with these diorite/quartz/schist vessels or you are gonna break your hand.

A high quality lathe like laser is needed to reach this perfect precision outside on the shiny surface and inside to seek the bottom without design errors , you can't make something refined like those without machines!

The Serapeum is a mystery more than the pyramids themselves!

Regarding Serapeum , the Serapeum tunnel with it's mysterious boxes is also precisely dug and impossible to be done by labor force , since no daylight can reach the tunnel nor you can light fire there unless you want to die of asphyxia , this stony tunnel needs an electric mole with a well distributed lighting system to work in the dark , another mystery without explanation.

The giant two men on the sides reminds us of something!

As for this one , this is a sculpt of a scene found in the Dendera temple interpreted by Egyptologists as a "kind of" religious festival , but other people noticed that this is actually the Crookes Tube , electricity in ancient Egypt!

It's also interesting when you find ancient Egyptians made the Djed symbol a spine for their gods , but when thinking about it you will discover this is actually an electric insulator , which means they didn't even know how the thing works , they just got inspired by it from unknown source......

Egyptologists excused that this on the left was a bowl to put fruits in it!

In the Egyptian Museum , those schist cogs were in Saqqara tombs , and looks like ancient Egyptians didn't find a use for it like they literally thought it a rubbish , and only Allah knows what this piece was doing with them , or with the ones before them.

Article: كهرباء وماكينات في عصور ما قبل التاريخ !

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  • (8) Orion's Belt & the Immortality Project

Why 3 Pyramids? ..... Why graded sizes? ...... Egyptologists throw this at the three kings answer with the redundant reasons and guessing without a historical proof.

Although Robert Bauval wasn't convinced by those , in his book "The Orion Mystery" ; he proposed a question , why the 3rd Pyramid is misaligned with the other 2?

He deduced something that flipped Egyptology on it's head , the Pyramids are actually an earthly representation of Orion constellation in the sky:

To be honest , he is a Nobel Awardee for noticing this!

But when he extended the search further with the other pyramids , he saw a full-scale image , the Egyptian pyramids (constellations) with Nile valley (Milky Way) are making a map of the heaven on the earth:

Scary to think how simple our age is against this mastermind!

( 56/75 ) Then I swear by the setting of the stars,

( 56/76 ) And indeed, it is an oath - if you could know - [most] great.

Those pyramids were a part of a huge project serving a religious immortality belief in Osiris myth , but when Robert computationally tried to conclude the Pyramids date based on the closeness of Orion to the earth , he found a scary 10450 BCE on the screen , a civilization in the ice age!!

This also proves the Pyramids were not made one after another like the kings game in the history books , but complex engineering work built simultaneously that not even mankind today can think about:

( 40/36 ) And Pharaoh said, "O Haman, construct for me a tower that I might reach the ways -

( 40/37 ) The ways into the heavens - so that I may look at the deity of Moses; but indeed, I think he is a liar."

The star of Sirius and Orion are 2/4 of different constellations the skylights in King/Queen rooms in the Great Pyramid look upon , Sirius (Queen South) and Orion (King South) , Kochab (Queen North) and Thuban (King North).

But this was just a demo , it looks like ancient humanity from east to west were seeking an eternal ultimatum before us:

It is out of hand!

( 53/49 ) And that it is He who is the Lord of Sirius

( 53/50 ) And that He destroyed the first [people of] 'Aad

The Qur'an mentions the star of Sirius before 'Aad , so we didn't know earth's history , and mysteries are getting bigger than solved......

Article: حزام أوريون والعمر الحقيقي للأهرامات

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  • Conclusions

The first Arabic reference to suggest 'Aad as the ancient civilization is a 1996 book called الفراعنة لصوص حضارة/Pharaohs-Thieves-of-Civilization , made logical points on the Pyramids , brief but brave move that opened the door for a fact we were not aware about since Champollion.

My conclusions based on it:

  1. Ancient Egyptians had no physical power/advantage/height to build something like the Pyramids , even we can not replicate them with technology today , they didn't mention anywhere the building process to raise 25-80 tons stone blocks.
  2. Ancient Egyptians were dishonest historians , they were polytheists while having Prophets , they deified their kings as sons of the Egyptian deities , they lied about their victories like destroying Israel in Merneptah Stele , and they were known for corrupting the monumental inscriptions , which explains why they never mentioned Prophet Moses or Joseph.
  3. The Egyptian tombs and works outside the Pyramids do not prove that ancient Egyptians built them , they only revered the Pyramids , like early Christians who corrupted the inscriptions in Temple of Edfu when they escaped the Romans , or early Muslims who took pyramids stones to build other projects.
  4. Not a single mummy was found inside any Pyramid or inscriptions on them , which means they were not built as tombs even if ancient Egyptians lied and wrote it's theirs.
  5. Ancient Egypt kingdom sparked high at ~3200 BCE , which means there must have been older civilizations before it whom got decimated like dinosaurs from history!

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  • What we know about 'Aad

( 89/6 ) Have you not considered how your Lord dealt with 'Aad -

( 89/7 ) Iram - with lofty pillars,

( 89/8 ) The likes of which had never been created in the land?

Iram of pillars is the city of Iunu that existed since before ancient Egypt , Greeks called it Heliopolis (City of the Sun) and now located ruins in Ayn Shams , Iunu translates to "City of Pillars" in ancient Egyptian.

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فَأَمَّا عَادٌ فَاسْتَكْبَرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ بِغَيْرِ الْحَقِّ وَقَالُوا مَنْ أَشَدُّ مِنَّا قُوَّةً ۖ أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ الَّذِي خَلَقَهُمْ هُوَ أَشَدُّ مِنْهُمْ قُوَّةً ۖ وَكَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا يَجْحَدُونَ

( 41/15 ) As for 'Aad, they were arrogant upon the earth without right and said, "Who is greater than us in strength?" Did they not consider that Allah who created them was greater than them in strength? But they were rejecting Our signs.

'Aad were tyrants challenging among other nations , not solo-cornered in south of Arabia.

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( 26/128 ) Do you construct on every elevation a sign, amusing yourselves,

( 26/129 ) And take for yourselves palaces and fortresses that you might abide eternally?

( 26/130 ) And when you strike, you strike as tyrants.

'Aad were professional engineers , the Qur'an called the pyramids on sand hills 'signs' (all pyramids are on high plateaus) , and the word مصانع/masane' means huge buildings that refers to temples , 'Aad believed in eternal salvation and ancient Egyptians got inspired by them.

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( 26/132 ) And fear He who provided you with that which you know,

( 26/133 ) Provided you with grazing livestock and children

( 26/134 ) And gardens and springs.

Just like Ramsees II land description in [26:57] , there was green fertile land in 'Aad's Ahkaf , which is true if you knew ancient Egypt had valleys and canals that got deserted before our time.

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( 20/69 ) And throw what is in your right hand; it will swallow up what they have crafted. What they have crafted is but the trick of a magician, and the magician will not succeed wherever he is."

( 20/70 ) So the magicians fell down in prostration. They said, "We have believed in the Lord of Aaron and Moses."

The possibility that ancient Egyptians used Jinns is excluded , since the best ones were only able in magic tricks as of the time of Ramsees II , not sorcery.

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وَعَادًا وَثَمُودَ وَقَد تَّبَيَّنَ لَكُم مِّن مَّسَاكِنِهِمْ ۖ

( 29/38 ) And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud, and it has become clear to you from their [ruined] dwellings.

The civilization of 'Aad is in the clear existence and people still visit it to this day , undeniably!

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وَقَالَ فِرْعَوْنُ يَا أَيُّهَا الْمَلَأُ مَا عَلِمْتُ لَكُم مِّنْ إِلَٰهٍ غَيْرِي فَأَوْقِدْ لِي يَا هَامَانُ عَلَى الطِّينِ فَاجْعَل لِّي صَرْحًا لَّعَلِّي أَطَّلِعُ إِلَىٰ إِلَٰهِ مُوسَىٰ وَإِنِّي لَأَظُنُّهُ مِنَ الْكَاذِبِينَ

( 28/38 ) And Pharaoh said, "O eminent ones, I have not known you to have a god other than me. Then ignite for me, O Haman, [a fire] upon the clay and make for me a tower that I may look at the God of Moses. And indeed, I do think he is among the liars."

Ancient Egyptians didn't know the procedures to sculpt solid basalt/granite/quartz/diorite materials , they were using hot clay instead to build , a clear proof there was a science gap between the lost civilization and Ancient Egypt.

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( 40/30 ) And he who believed said, "O my people, indeed I fear for you [a fate] like the day of the companies -

( 40/31 ) Like the custom of the people of Noah and of 'Aad and Thamud and those after them. And Allah wants no injustice for [His] servants."

Ancient Egyptians knew 'Aad and Thamud before Moses time , so they must have heard their names from Prophet Joseph.

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( 20/51 ) [Pharaoh] said, "Then what is the case of the former generations?"

( 20/52 ) [Moses] said, "The knowledge thereof is with my Lord in a record. My Lord neither errs nor forgets."

Ramsees II was wondering about the ancients of Egypt , so he asked Moses about the lost civilizations before them.............

فَمَا بَالُ الْقُرُونِ الْأُولَىٰ ---> وَأَنَّهُ أَهْلَكَ عَادًا الْأُولَىٰ

He was asking about 'Aad!

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It looks like history didn't start from 3200 BCE like we always thought , it is deeper than we imagined , and advanced than we perceived , there's a huge missing link in history between us and Noah's flood we have bits of its truth!

I'm feeling Assassin's Creed vibes mixed with Shadow of the Colossus flashbacks from this , and shocked seeing how volatile and unfair history is , this can not be one civilization but intervened ones that only the last took its honour , and I have no idea how this will translate in the future coming.

Please say what you think (or to the blogger on his site) , Qur'an is the only Book today that directly mentions 'Aad , and you know how this can score for Islam if it fulfills to be true:

( 40/82 ) Have they not traveled through the land and observed how was the end of those before them? They were more numerous than themselves and greater in strength and in impression on the land, but they were not availed by what they used to earn.

( 40/83 ) And when their messengers came to them with clear proofs, they [merely] rejoiced in what they had of knowledge, but they were enveloped by what they used to ridicule.

( 40/84 ) And when they saw Our punishment, they said," We believe in Allah alone and disbelieve in that which we used to associate with Him."

( 40/85 ) But never did their faith benefit them once they saw Our punishment. [It is] the established way of Allah which has preceded among His servants. And the disbelievers thereupon lost [all].

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